It's often pointed out we're becoming more Roman by the minute.
So we're going in this direction. So be it. Fine. But I think: If this is the way it's really going to be, then why not bring back vomitoriums already?
I get so lonely wretching by myself.
Posted by ÿ at July 22, 2003 01:51 PMWell, the article points out the vomitorium was an entranceway to the colosseum, not a barfing-room. Romans did indeed enjoy spewing, but they let fly on the floor and had slaves clean 'er up. That's what it says, anyway.
Special props to that article for bringing up 'erotic vomiting', aka emetophilia.
Posted by: D on July 22, 2003 05:02 PM .Oops!
That link was an afterthought "just in case anyone's doubting there were once vomitoriums, I better provide some proof." I skimmed the first paragragh with answer in mind, and lamely deduced they did exist, but were attached to colosseums, not places to go in and of themselves. I admit, it didn't seem strange thinking of people economically lining up in big rooms and barfing on their way back out onto the street, considering what they'd seen.
On the up-side, everytime I've skimmed a link, someone's called me on it within 5 minutes, which is good enough, in a humbling sort'a way.
And 'emetophilia', I dig. What do you know about it?
Posted by: ÿ on July 22, 2003 06:04 PM .Wow. "In the past there has been little erotic material produced for this sort of fetish" - no shit. (er, not to bring up coprophilia or anything) Maybe if they wore togas I'd get turned on. or maybe not. Good lord above, I can't even begin to comment about that site.
Okaaay... *wipes puke off monitor* thanks for reminding me to get a Harper's, I'd love to read some hot Lapham-on-Rome action.
But lastly, is there a fetish for getting turned on by Republicans?
Posted by: D on July 22, 2003 07:03 PM .Lyotard wrote a really hard to find book call the Pacific Wall about America as the new Rome/Europe as its Greece. The book came out in the late 70's and it was written in response to an installation at Documenta. I can't remember much about the book other than it beat everyone else to the punch regarding most of the specifics of modern imperialism and the term 'greasy foreigners' pops up like eighty times. I think a lot of the stuff in the book is totally irrelevant now that we're all e-post-national and shit.
Fuck this is a useless post.
oh yeah and the book has two naked women floating in a swimming pool on the cover. No Title, No Author or Publishing information, just boobs.
Here are some excerpts:
"The white skin of Western women- meaning the most Western of European-descended American women- is absolute West. My name for the situation of this skin today is California."
"To desire that skin puts you in the position of Negroes, Indians, and greasy foreigners (!). Or pimps. In this situation, non-resident European men who happen to actually be from Europe become greasy foreigners(!) and the property of superior white women- defined as the only ones who "get". European-descended American men act as their pimps."
"Absolute West is just cities, just irrigated gardens, beaches, deserts- it's like the Near East that way."
"All politics is a desire for Empire and domination. And every politician is a pimp.
Empire is indefinite expansion. A limit to Empire is set, for the time being only, by exhausting your forward flight and your concern for exclusive appropriation. Capital realizes a Roman idea of imperial expansion.
American presidents are emperors. Washington is Rome. The USA is Italy. Europe is its Greece. "
"Some nations don't succeed in settling down into the Empire and are put on reservations. They're displaced to border areas or destroyed.
White Skin arouses desire in greasy foreigners(!) like an inside calling up an outside. The skin becomes hollowed out, turning into an inside and giving the appearance of depth, and what results is prostitution."
"Racism is the jealousy an imperial name feels for names of whatever's different, for names of migratory nations."
"European Visiting Professors on campus are Greek tutors: slaves, freed slaves, dependents, wards of Rome, mercenaries of an Amerikapital that worries about its border areas."
That's all from the introduction, which is dedicated to Marilyn Monroe.
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